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		<title>By: taijidave</title>
		<link>http://practicalmysticproductions.com/blog/2007/07/22/hairy-spoilers/comment-page-1/#comment-8746</link>
		<dc:creator>taijidave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 18:02:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kundera is &lt;strong&gt;glorious&lt;/strong&gt;. I totally agree w/ what you are saying-- there are some writers who spend that extra time to get just the &lt;em&gt;right&lt;/em&gt; word... &amp; it just -sings- off the page. But far from being mere formalists, wholly interested in &#039;sound&#039; rather than &#039;sense&#039;, these authors speak about things of deep[sic] meaning, &amp; you walk-away still thinking. Kundera is simply brilliant in &quot;Unbearable Lightness&quot;; starting w/ a neo-Barthesian semiotics discussion of kitsch, then titillating w/ loads of sex; his true focus is &quot;what does it mean to [only] be &#039;light&#039;? Is that possible? Or is &#039;heaviness&#039; not a malady, but &lt;em&gt;necessary&lt;/em&gt; in order to live life fully?&quot; Wow. It&#039;s like a full symphony for the senses; my ears, eyes, gut, heart, -and- mind are enrapt. 

All that, &amp; written w/ words that never distract as [mere] poetry-lite, but roll off the tongue &amp; you find yourself repeating them for [years] afterwards.

Bukowski is on my short list. As is e.e.cummings. Etc. And, if you forgive me, Karl Edward Wagner (heroic fantasy in the vein of Robert E. Howard&#039;s &quot;Conan&quot;)

Eh? Heroic fantasy(?!). Well, in UCBerkeley Comp Lit classes, they made a big deal of the distinction between &quot;Literature&quot; (capital &#039;L&#039;) -vs- &quot;literature&quot; (small-&#039;L&#039;)... the former being the &#039;classics&#039; &amp; the latter being Danielle Steel. Some of the paradigmatic distinctions between the two would be focus &amp; audience; whether there were lots of allusions to the Great Texts; &amp; whether the author was addressing the Big Questions... but often it just boiled-down to whether the &#039;critics&#039; liked the work, vs whether it was popular w/ the hoi polloi. Thus, I have no truck w/ self-consciously &quot;Literature&quot; like Calvino... but greatly appreciated the Comp Lit Grad Instructors who assigned texts like Gibson&#039;s &quot;Neuromancer&quot; &amp; Frank Miller&#039;s &quot;Dark Knight&quot;, &amp; then un-self-consciously had us compare them w/ Shakespeare, Chekhov, Dostoevsky, et al. 

Literature (sound, sense, enlighten &amp; delight) is wherever you find it... &amp; the critics are usually last on the bandwagon. :-) Funnier still-- Shakes, Chekov, &amp; Fyodor were in their day &quot;just getting by&quot;, often popular writers, sometimes not, but all trying to get &lt;strong&gt;read&lt;/strong&gt;. It&#039;s only thru the distance of time can we (attempt) to attribute to them &#039;selfless&#039; qualities, as if they &#039;wrote for writing&#039;s sake&#039; rather than to bring home the bacon. Nothing so simple-- the Great authors/artists speak to themes they feel passionately about, &lt;em&gt;and&lt;/em&gt; they manage to translate those glimpses into clearer images the rest of us can see. 

But they remain fixed on those passionate feelings, images, themes... &amp; are never satisfied w/ kitsch. JKR, like King before her, manages to traverse the arc from discovery to boredom, in only 7 books. It took Whitman his whole life, re- &amp; re-writing his essential &quot;Leaves of Grass&quot;, until he finally forgot his original inspiration. Compare his original version, vs. the &#039;deathbed&#039; one, &amp; you&#039;ll see what I mean. Compare King&#039;s &quot;Shining&quot; vs. anything he&#039;s written in the last decade. 

Or compare the first &quot;Harry&quot; w/ the last. &#039;Nuff said...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kundera is <strong>glorious</strong>. I totally agree w/ what you are saying&#8211; there are some writers who spend that extra time to get just the <em>right</em> word&#8230; &#038; it just -sings- off the page. But far from being mere formalists, wholly interested in &#8216;sound&#8217; rather than &#8216;sense&#8217;, these authors speak about things of deep[sic] meaning, &#038; you walk-away still thinking. Kundera is simply brilliant in &#8220;Unbearable Lightness&#8221;; starting w/ a neo-Barthesian semiotics discussion of kitsch, then titillating w/ loads of sex; his true focus is &#8220;what does it mean to [only] be &#8216;light&#8217;? Is that possible? Or is &#8216;heaviness&#8217; not a malady, but <em>necessary</em> in order to live life fully?&#8221; Wow. It&#8217;s like a full symphony for the senses; my ears, eyes, gut, heart, -and- mind are enrapt. </p>
<p>All that, &#038; written w/ words that never distract as [mere] poetry-lite, but roll off the tongue &#038; you find yourself repeating them for [years] afterwards.</p>
<p>Bukowski is on my short list. As is e.e.cummings. Etc. And, if you forgive me, Karl Edward Wagner (heroic fantasy in the vein of Robert E. Howard&#8217;s &#8220;Conan&#8221;)</p>
<p>Eh? Heroic fantasy(?!). Well, in UCBerkeley Comp Lit classes, they made a big deal of the distinction between &#8220;Literature&#8221; (capital &#8216;L&#8217;) -vs- &#8220;literature&#8221; (small-&#8217;L')&#8230; the former being the &#8216;classics&#8217; &#038; the latter being Danielle Steel. Some of the paradigmatic distinctions between the two would be focus & audience; whether there were lots of allusions to the Great Texts; &#038; whether the author was addressing the Big Questions&#8230; but often it just boiled-down to whether the &#8216;critics&#8217; liked the work, vs whether it was popular w/ the hoi polloi. Thus, I have no truck w/ self-consciously &#8220;Literature&#8221; like Calvino&#8230; but greatly appreciated the Comp Lit Grad Instructors who assigned texts like Gibson&#8217;s &#8220;Neuromancer&#8221; &#038; Frank Miller&#8217;s &#8220;Dark Knight&#8221;, &#038; then un-self-consciously had us compare them w/ Shakespeare, Chekhov, Dostoevsky, et al. </p>
<p>Literature (sound, sense, enlighten &#038; delight) is wherever you find it&#8230; &#038; the critics are usually last on the bandwagon. <img src='http://practicalmysticproductions.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  Funnier still&#8211; Shakes, Chekov, &#038; Fyodor were in their day &#8220;just getting by&#8221;, often popular writers, sometimes not, but all trying to get <strong>read</strong>. It&#8217;s only thru the distance of time can we (attempt) to attribute to them &#8216;selfless&#8217; qualities, as if they &#8216;wrote for writing&#8217;s sake&#8217; rather than to bring home the bacon. Nothing so simple&#8211; the Great authors/artists speak to themes they feel passionately about, <em>and</em> they manage to translate those glimpses into clearer images the rest of us can see. </p>
<p>But they remain fixed on those passionate feelings, images, themes&#8230; &#038; are never satisfied w/ kitsch. JKR, like King before her, manages to traverse the arc from discovery to boredom, in only 7 books. It took Whitman his whole life, re- &#038; re-writing his essential &#8220;Leaves of Grass&#8221;, until he finally forgot his original inspiration. Compare his original version, vs. the &#8216;deathbed&#8217; one, &#038; you&#8217;ll see what I mean. Compare King&#8217;s &#8220;Shining&#8221; vs. anything he&#8217;s written in the last decade. </p>
<p>Or compare the first &#8220;Harry&#8221; w/ the last. &#8216;Nuff said&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: nadi</title>
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		<dc:creator>nadi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2007 19:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>alright how about kundera then?  maybe iz me and i cling a bit too the old fashioned art of writing when i really shouldnt.  after all i write in a different style, too, most of the time.  and who knows, maybe jkr is bugged by thoughts of what she could have done, too, and one day we have an overworked version.  will keep my fingers crossed for u:).  nadi</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>alright how about kundera then?  maybe iz me and i cling a bit too the old fashioned art of writing when i really shouldnt.  after all i write in a different style, too, most of the time.  and who knows, maybe jkr is bugged by thoughts of what she could have done, too, and one day we have an overworked version.  will keep my fingers crossed for u:).  nadi</p>
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		<title>By: taijidave</title>
		<link>http://practicalmysticproductions.com/blog/2007/07/22/hairy-spoilers/comment-page-1/#comment-8656</link>
		<dc:creator>taijidave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2007 19:39:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>True enough; if I didn&#039;t care about it so much I wouldn&#039;t have been so disappointed. JKR is at her best when she creates that amazing, magical world... leaping from her [imagination] as-if fully-formed, it is a world/universe I&#039;d drop everything to live in. I even use her (magical ideas) in my meditation classes all the time! But she just isn&#039;t at her best w/ &quot;the nature of evil&quot;, from back-biting politics to the inner motivations of V, they seem puerile, childish in all the worst ways. Again, even Lucas (or Kasdan, rather) raised &quot;Star Wars&quot; to epic status when they delved into the inner motivations of Vader (another &quot;V&quot;) in &quot;Empire&quot;. Here, V just acts like a spoiled kid, even less dimensional than Draco(?!)

My bad reaction to #7 was wholly in response (reaction?) to all the knee-jerking JKR o&#039;philes, kissing her every word. Even Stephen King went all ga-ga on her butt, when he himself has been known to write awesomely (&quot;Green Mile&quot;, &quot;Rita Hayward&quot;, &quot;Shining&quot;).

If I may be forgiven, here&#039;s another filmic reference: compare Xmen 1 &amp; 2, with 3. All 3 have basically identical action/adventure &amp; special effects splendour... it&#039;s just 1 &amp; 2 were made by someone who really *cares* about the lot of a person forever misunderstood (ie, Singer)... &amp; you can see it even in the smallest scenes. The action is secondary; the characters&#039; feelings are *primary*. However #3 was made by hackmeister Ratt, who&#039;d rather spend $1M blowing something up than spend 1 minute asking (good) actors to dig deep, &amp; *feel*. 

JKR wasn&#039;t &#039;feeling&#039; anything in #6 &amp; #7, or I&#039;d bet you&#039;d walk-away remembering that ending. 

They have a saying in H-wood: &quot;If it&#039;s not in the script, it&#039;ll never get on the screen&quot;. Peter Jackson isn&#039;t the best director in the world (cf. &quot;Kong&quot;), but there was *something* in JRRT that inspired literally 10+ years of work, &amp; 3 nearly flawless films. Sure JRRT picked &amp; chose from early Celtic myths &amp; went a bit too gaga on impenetrable Elvish songs... but he created a similarly wonderous world, forever coloring our understanding of Good &amp; Evil (a completely non-geeky acquaintance just referenced Sauron in a conversation w/ me yesterday!)... &amp; better-- gave us hope, inspiration, &amp; wonder. 

And I damn well love his words... I&#039;ll trade him w/ Nabokov any day, even if he does read better in his native Russian. :-D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True enough; if I didn&#8217;t care about it so much I wouldn&#8217;t have been so disappointed. JKR is at her best when she creates that amazing, magical world&#8230; leaping from her [imagination] as-if fully-formed, it is a world/universe I&#8217;d drop everything to live in. I even use her (magical ideas) in my meditation classes all the time! But she just isn&#8217;t at her best w/ &#8220;the nature of evil&#8221;, from back-biting politics to the inner motivations of V, they seem puerile, childish in all the worst ways. Again, even Lucas (or Kasdan, rather) raised &#8220;Star Wars&#8221; to epic status when they delved into the inner motivations of Vader (another &#8220;V&#8221;) in &#8220;Empire&#8221;. Here, V just acts like a spoiled kid, even less dimensional than Draco(?!)</p>
<p>My bad reaction to #7 was wholly in response (reaction?) to all the knee-jerking JKR o&#8217;philes, kissing her every word. Even Stephen King went all ga-ga on her butt, when he himself has been known to write awesomely (&#8220;Green Mile&#8221;, &#8220;Rita Hayward&#8221;, &#8220;Shining&#8221;).</p>
<p>If I may be forgiven, here&#8217;s another filmic reference: compare Xmen 1 &#038; 2, with 3. All 3 have basically identical action/adventure &#038; special effects splendour&#8230; it&#8217;s just 1 &#038; 2 were made by someone who really *cares* about the lot of a person forever misunderstood (ie, Singer)&#8230; &#038; you can see it even in the smallest scenes. The action is secondary; the characters&#8217; feelings are *primary*. However #3 was made by hackmeister Ratt, who&#8217;d rather spend $1M blowing something up than spend 1 minute asking (good) actors to dig deep, &#038; *feel*. </p>
<p>JKR wasn&#8217;t &#8216;feeling&#8217; anything in #6 &#038; #7, or I&#8217;d bet you&#8217;d walk-away remembering that ending. </p>
<p>They have a saying in H-wood: &#8220;If it&#8217;s not in the script, it&#8217;ll never get on the screen&#8221;. Peter Jackson isn&#8217;t the best director in the world (cf. &#8220;Kong&#8221;), but there was *something* in JRRT that inspired literally 10+ years of work, &#038; 3 nearly flawless films. Sure JRRT picked &#038; chose from early Celtic myths &#038; went a bit too gaga on impenetrable Elvish songs&#8230; but he created a similarly wonderous world, forever coloring our understanding of Good &#038; Evil (a completely non-geeky acquaintance just referenced Sauron in a conversation w/ me yesterday!)&#8230; &#038; better&#8211; gave us hope, inspiration, &#038; wonder. </p>
<p>And I damn well love his words&#8230; I&#8217;ll trade him w/ Nabokov any day, even if he does read better in his native Russian. <img src='http://practicalmysticproductions.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':-D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: nadi</title>
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		<dc:creator>nadi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2007 09:13:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>whoa, cant believe you wrote this much about potter # 7.  i have to be honest, i had fun reading it.  i read # 6 right before and really wanted to find out how it ends so i read them both through.  ending was fine, i already forgot it, as i always do.  as for being a work of art - for the ideas, for the wit, for the fantasy, same like lotr etc - great.  for the art of language, uhm, strictly speaking neither jkr nor jrrt were true masters of their art.  yes jrrt even invented languages and was a sort of scientist in his approach to language altogether but did he write for the beauty of the language like you find it in a nabokov or shakespeare (still only really understand him when i see his works played) or capote or hemingway or hesse.  the kind that makes you sigh because the words so perfectly fit the situation and your feelings about it, were they food, they had just the perfect texture and temperature in your mouth and would even supercede your own ideals in taste.  so dont be too hard on jkr.  as you already know what really disappoints us are our own expectations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>whoa, cant believe you wrote this much about potter # 7.  i have to be honest, i had fun reading it.  i read # 6 right before and really wanted to find out how it ends so i read them both through.  ending was fine, i already forgot it, as i always do.  as for being a work of art &#8211; for the ideas, for the wit, for the fantasy, same like lotr etc &#8211; great.  for the art of language, uhm, strictly speaking neither jkr nor jrrt were true masters of their art.  yes jrrt even invented languages and was a sort of scientist in his approach to language altogether but did he write for the beauty of the language like you find it in a nabokov or shakespeare (still only really understand him when i see his works played) or capote or hemingway or hesse.  the kind that makes you sigh because the words so perfectly fit the situation and your feelings about it, were they food, they had just the perfect texture and temperature in your mouth and would even supercede your own ideals in taste.  so dont be too hard on jkr.  as you already know what really disappoints us are our own expectations.</p>
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		<title>By: taijidave</title>
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		<dc:creator>taijidave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 04:28:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not wanting to leave a bad taste in my mouth, the day after I finished Potter#7, I went-back &amp; re-read Potter#1,  &quot;Sorceror&#039;s Stone&quot;. And you know what? It&#039;s all there-- fun, witty, joyous, discovery... &amp; most of all, tightly-written. No long gushing ends-up-nowhere sequences. No &quot;okay, sure, I guess that makes sense&quot;. No need to &#039;explain&#039;. There are good things &amp; bad things in this world, sure... but our hero(es) are capable, &amp; are growing into their own. 

But most telling? Nobody needs (or wants) to spend hours debating &quot;what really happened&quot; in book#1 (or 2, or 3, etc). What happened is right there, on the page, with real characters living, feeling, reacting, &amp; we celebrate them for that.

But in #7, Rowling seemingly is satisfied to &#039;coast&#039; on all that good will, &amp; instead basically hashes-together a plot hinging on &quot;why not do that&quot;. Arbitrary plot-points after more arbitrary rationales... supplemented by jumbled, final-act exposition(!!). And always a huge sense of Rowling saying &quot;I always meant to do that&quot;, ie &#039;plot spackle&#039;. In short, I never got that sense of &quot;oohhhh&quot;, which you get when you experience a truly great story-- even if you know how it&#039;s going to end, you&#039;re always surprised, &amp; gratified. Delighted, even. And, you tend to walk-away quietly, letting that &quot;A-ha!&quot; moment reverberate thru your head, for days. 

...it&#039;s funny-- after reading a literal &lt;strong&gt;ton &lt;/strong&gt;of ppl&#039;s gushing reviews of #7, I just think of what happened after all the build-up hype for &quot;Episode One&quot;. Nearly everyone I know, Star Wars fanatics all, were running around like teenagers in a new crush. And then afterwards, their smiles were a teensy bit forced, but they still gamely &#039;explained&#039; why what they saw was &quot;good anyway&quot;. But you know what, now, years after Eps&#039; 1-3, the consensus online is solid: these 3 were a disaster, misguided, &amp; most wish they hadn&#039;t happened at all. I&#039;m not saying (quite) that here, but I sure do wish Rowling had re-thought her &quot;head-in-pensieve&quot; plot for these last 2 books. 

To sum up-- there&#039;s a difference between &#039;negative capability&#039;, &amp; just being lazy. And Rowling is leaning towards the latter here. 

And of the many disgruntlements #7 left me with, let me finish with just one: why oh why kill-off so many characters, oh so casually? Yes we know that &#039;War is Hell&#039;, sure we know that life is &#039;&#039;fired at us point-blank&quot;... but even a somewhat-decent writer will allow the audience to pause, &amp; &lt;em&gt;get &lt;/em&gt;something from that [death]. If not Harry himself being affected, then perhaps someone else... let-alone giving us a little visibility on the scene(!!)... B/c after spending literally dozens of pages apiece in previous books developing truly interesting characters like Moody, Lupin, Tonks, &amp; even Scrimjoeur, killing them off-screen is just a chintzy cop-out. Even Sirius&#039;s oh-so-quick bow-out in #5 got more play...

These characters we&#039;ve learned to love deserve a noble death, &amp; we accordingly deserve a moment to appreciate their lives, &amp; reflect on what they meant to us. By basically casting them aside (while evil dorks like Draco walk-away unpunished), Rowling is doing us a disservice. This isn&#039;t irony; this isn&#039;t &#039;missed opportunities&#039;; this is Bad Writing.

Potter, Finis. [even though the thought she &quot;made a clear ending&quot; is laughable; all the main characters are still there, &amp; she has &lt;em&gt;nineteen &lt;/em&gt;years to fill...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not wanting to leave a bad taste in my mouth, the day after I finished Potter#7, I went-back &#038; re-read Potter#1,  &#8220;Sorceror&#8217;s Stone&#8221;. And you know what? It&#8217;s all there&#8211; fun, witty, joyous, discovery&#8230; &#038; most of all, tightly-written. No long gushing ends-up-nowhere sequences. No &#8220;okay, sure, I guess that makes sense&#8221;. No need to &#8216;explain&#8217;. There are good things &#038; bad things in this world, sure&#8230; but our hero(es) are capable, &#038; are growing into their own. </p>
<p>But most telling? Nobody needs (or wants) to spend hours debating &#8220;what really happened&#8221; in book#1 (or 2, or 3, etc). What happened is right there, on the page, with real characters living, feeling, reacting, &#038; we celebrate them for that.</p>
<p>But in #7, Rowling seemingly is satisfied to &#8216;coast&#8217; on all that good will, &#038; instead basically hashes-together a plot hinging on &#8220;why not do that&#8221;. Arbitrary plot-points after more arbitrary rationales&#8230; supplemented by jumbled, final-act exposition(!!). And always a huge sense of Rowling saying &#8220;I always meant to do that&#8221;, ie &#8216;plot spackle&#8217;. In short, I never got that sense of &#8220;oohhhh&#8221;, which you get when you experience a truly great story&#8211; even if you know how it&#8217;s going to end, you&#8217;re always surprised, &#038; gratified. Delighted, even. And, you tend to walk-away quietly, letting that &#8220;A-ha!&#8221; moment reverberate thru your head, for days. </p>
<p>&#8230;it&#8217;s funny&#8211; after reading a literal <strong>ton </strong>of ppl&#8217;s gushing reviews of #7, I just think of what happened after all the build-up hype for &#8220;Episode One&#8221;. Nearly everyone I know, Star Wars fanatics all, were running around like teenagers in a new crush. And then afterwards, their smiles were a teensy bit forced, but they still gamely &#8216;explained&#8217; why what they saw was &#8220;good anyway&#8221;. But you know what, now, years after Eps&#8217; 1-3, the consensus online is solid: these 3 were a disaster, misguided, &#038; most wish they hadn&#8217;t happened at all. I&#8217;m not saying (quite) that here, but I sure do wish Rowling had re-thought her &#8220;head-in-pensieve&#8221; plot for these last 2 books. </p>
<p>To sum up&#8211; there&#8217;s a difference between &#8216;negative capability&#8217;, &#038; just being lazy. And Rowling is leaning towards the latter here. </p>
<p>And of the many disgruntlements #7 left me with, let me finish with just one: why oh why kill-off so many characters, oh so casually? Yes we know that &#8216;War is Hell&#8217;, sure we know that life is &#8221;fired at us point-blank&#8221;&#8230; but even a somewhat-decent writer will allow the audience to pause, &#038; <em>get </em>something from that [death]. If not Harry himself being affected, then perhaps someone else&#8230; let-alone giving us a little visibility on the scene(!!)&#8230; B/c after spending literally dozens of pages apiece in previous books developing truly interesting characters like Moody, Lupin, Tonks, &#038; even Scrimjoeur, killing them off-screen is just a chintzy cop-out. Even Sirius&#8217;s oh-so-quick bow-out in #5 got more play&#8230;</p>
<p>These characters we&#8217;ve learned to love deserve a noble death, &#038; we accordingly deserve a moment to appreciate their lives, &#038; reflect on what they meant to us. By basically casting them aside (while evil dorks like Draco walk-away unpunished), Rowling is doing us a disservice. This isn&#8217;t irony; this isn&#8217;t &#8216;missed opportunities&#8217;; this is Bad Writing.</p>
<p>Potter, Finis. [even though the thought she "made a clear ending" is laughable; all the main characters are still there, &#038; she has <em>nineteen </em>years to fill...]</p>
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